I was going to write something and then basically just forget it. Not worth my time.
So hi.
Yours truly is going to be getting interviewed on the upcoming "Shutter Time Show" podcast
[link] where I will discuss my photography and about shooting in general. get ready! Should be fun! When it is available I will link you all.
In other news;
Kind of wondering this...why do groups even exist? Seriously, why? They are still so half baked and are so far away from what they could be. I honestly can't tell you either how many idiots I have encountered who have no idea what a good photo is. Seriously, if you are going to make someone an admin at least make 100% sure that they have a gallery and body of work to backup what they are talking about. You are simply out and shooting pictures that resemble something Stevie Wonder took? You probably have no business being an admin of a group. Just sayin'. Time to clean out the groups I am a member of and keep the good ones who know wtf they are talking about.
Want to know something else? I'll tell ya.
I am going to break down the door and tell you all a little something here. Something that may stir the pot and if you say "they don't to me", I won't believe you. Each and everyone who has ever said "page views don't matter", "comments don't matter", "favs don't matter" is lying about it. Period. Everybody wants to be seen and people to see their work. Straight up, if you didn't you would be posting it on the internet in the first place would you? No.
Each time you upload an image you are in effect promoting yourself, whether it is to get favs, comments, get a DD, make the front page, your name just out there or maybe sell something. What people hate isn't the self promotion/ego stroking, what they hate is the competition which surrounds it.
True story.
John
And as far as the groups thing goes. I like the premise, but I have most of the submissions blocked off my deviations feed thing because so many of them are not up to standard. But I guess that's me being a hypocrite a bit because maybe those people are proud of what they've accomplished. Just can't win
Hey congrats on the interview - and you're so right in your last paragraph! (That obviously includes you and me!
and second, yeah, groups are of a double edged sword, the problem with groups now is that ANYONE can make a group and be an admin for it, even people that don't have artistic talent or know what good art is, so we end with all these useless groups that don't do much or no control over what is submitted.
and lastly, yeah, you do have kind of point there with pageviews, favs and comments. even though we say we don't really care about we do, we still do like to see our work get lots of comments and favs because most people like getting feedback on their work no matter how small it is.
As for groups, I do believe something needs to change IF DeviantArt wants to stay respectable in the art world, and in the realm of real artists (of all mediums). I have noticed some groups accept anything, no matter how terrible it is. That's not just the groups that automatically accept, but there are other groups that require votes for acceptance, and they still allow rubbish.
My inbox is always overflowing with group or DevWatch deviations, and I think I should follow your lead and do a clean out. However, your next point about getting your art seen, faved, etc is poignant and true. For unknown artists like myself I am considering staying a member of the groups but unsubscribe from the submission feed. Selfish? Rude? Perhaps. But when you look at some of the pics like (and this is not the worst by any means):
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And it has 20 faves?! If I took a photo like that and put it in that group I would have one maybe two faves. And undeserved. 20 faves is nothing to some on dA, but for me it is heaps.
How can this :thumb297903580: be considered great photography? In eight groups, no less.
Agree with you about Groups - there are some good ones, run by people who know their stuff, but the rest... hmm.