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Don't Play The Guessing Game !

Journal Entry: Wed Jul 9, 2008, 3:50 AM




:bulletred: Don't Play The Guessing Game ! :bulletred:

:bulletred: Yes, you read right, Don't Play The Guessing Game ! So what is this "Guessing Game" I am speaking of? Well, it goes a lil something like this....

  If there is one thing I see a lot of people do on DA and why is beyond me, it is NOT fill out the image description in a photograph! Honestly, in my opinion, this area is often just as important as the artwork itself. The photographs you upload here on DA are illustrative content, keep that in mind. People want to know as much as they can about a photo, things like, how it was shot, where it was shot, exposure, conditions, your personal experience when you shot it, etc. This is one area I really try my best with, because I feel as though when you can add something to the shot such as a description, you are more likely to be able to transport the viewer into the scene as a whole, and make it actually something which they can relate to. Having something like "////////////" for a description certainly does nothing to help your photo, in fact it actually detracts from it.

  People as a whole are naturally curious, it's the way humankind is. By simply taking 2 minutes out to fill in a description and giving your account of the scene, you are able to capture someone's attention a whole lot more. Especially when you go a lil more in-depth with the description. A killer shot of a mountain scene for instance, with just the name of the peaks, does little other than name it. Ask yourself what was the light like, what was it getting there to shoot it, what was your reaction when you first saw the scene, who was with you, why did you decide to capture it, what grabbed your attention, and what did you experience while shooting it?

  When taking such things into account, one goes beyond a simple photograph, and enters in to a real world illustrative image, that actually helps the viewer understand and appreciate it even more so!

---John

ps--Wanna  hear something strange? Remember I wrote that journal about how comments and favs on my work took a severe plunge? Get this--it seems more than 40 + watchers have dropped off and stopped watching me in the last 2 weeks....hmm...glitch ...wanna bet v6 upgrades anyone!?!?!




:star: 50 Megapixel Kodak Sensor--- Gee, I wonder what the noise level is on THAT!

:star: Hasselblad H3DII-31 Now $17,995!!!!--- A massive price cut, but still most of us would have to sell our first born and ALSO ron the local 7-11. Oh well, hey! My bday is in 2 mos! lol

:star: Getty & Flickr!?!?--- Ummm I need to read this yet but if this is WHAT i THINK it is, I suggest those of you who are take their shooting seriously, better get your ass a Flickr account, like NOW!!!

:star: RIPPED or Imitation?!?--- You be the judge, this one is good!

:star: 10 Tips For Urban Photography--- A really good article

:star: Tips And Tricks Photography PDF Magazine issue 9 is OUT!--- Without a doubt, one of the very best online mags period! Get it by clicking the magazine name here!



Snail On The Move by DG-Photo I don't mind by AntiBling :thumb89109068:

Conspiracy by 0ry0n :thumb90683429: You again by lAliusl

daisies by whaeah Ride there by mysterious-one Here I Am by reflectorheart

:thumb62573620: :thumb89211423: Down At The Condom Shack by PaulMcKinnon

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:bulletred: Previous Important Journals :bulletred:


:bulletred: I've Been Interviewed!--- an interview with yours truly by LadyAnubis

:bulletred: What IS a GOOD photo?---Examining what exactly IS a great photo and what makes one.

:bulletred: What IS a beautiful photo?--- A serious look at what makes a beautiful photo and how some people on DA are hell bent against it!

:bulletred: So You Wanna Sell Your Art?!?!?--- Exploring one way of making $ with your art that many have come to do!

:bulletred: 25 Cent Fortunes--- How Microstock Photographers are rolling in the cash and how you should be, too!

:bulletred: When Are Photos Like Penny Stocks? --When They Sell!!--- An inside look at the business of Microstock and Photography.

:bulletred: Murphy's Law of Photography--- Because whatever can happen often will happen!

:bulletred: Creative Commons is BAD for Photography!!!---

:bulletred: A Heated Photography Debate--- Exploring the morals and ethics in "is it ever wrong to take a picture??"

:bulletred: An Open Letter to The DA Administration--- My not so candid thoughts on making this site better.

:bulletred: My HDR Workflow--- An examination of how I use HDR in my photos.

:bulletred: Why RAW Works!--- If You aren't shooting in RAW, you sure as hell should be!

:bulletred: Let's Talk Marketing Your Photos--- Examining different ways to get your work seen and sold.

:bulletred: Marketing Your Images, pt2--- The second installment on marketing your work.

:bulletred: Let's Talk About Keywording--- Making keywording in your images work for you!
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:highfive: Some Of The Artist's I Admire ;) :highfive:

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StarTyger Featured By Owner May 5, 2009
I think the point I would make
(actually 2 points - forgive me :) )
is that so many of your watchers
wish to do things in a professional manner
which would probably include getting
images published or exhibited.
Would they really expect to get far with an editor
if their image description was just ///// or ... ???
I think submitting an image on dART
deserves, at least, an effort to approach
some informational standard.

Additionally, I think it is very important
to know what you are photographing
as this, in itself, will make one better.
Thus, I don't just photograph THE Grand Canyon,
I photograph Vishnu Temple or the Tower of Ra.
Knowing details allows one to compose
images around these details -
and one can learn these details
by forcing themselves to write
decent descriptions of their images.
Consequently, when I post an image,
I usually am fairly explicit about what the viewer sees.
Naturally, I hope the viewer
spends more time looking than reading.
Nonetheless, even a concise "dry" description
can do a lot to enhance anyone's images.


Thank you for addressing this topic.
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kkart Featured By Owner May 5, 2009  Professional Photographer
words wisely said! I agree!
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TayMetal Featured By Owner Apr 4, 2009
Oh yea, that bugs me too. I feel very off put when there's no description and sometimes it makes me feel like the person didn't even take the photo.
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kkart Featured By Owner Apr 9, 2009  Professional Photographer
:) U said it!
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rachapunk Featured By Owner Sep 1, 2008  Hobbyist Photographer
I'd have to agree..
A good description or backstory can hugely enhance an image that was only mediocre to be fav-worthy..

I've seen plenty of fairly uninteresting images that have elevated to DD status because an amazing description pulls everything together and makes you look back at the image a few more times.

I usually try to make sure I at least have something down... though I could be much better about that :P

But then again, sometimes mysterious silence can be the most powerful.
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Saint-Gut-Free Featured By Owner Aug 7, 2008
here at dA, i'm not big on giving descriptions nor am i big on reading them. people ask questions, i answer.

btw, you were dropped due to all the verbage you spewed forth with regards to the exclusion of HDR in a contest.
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kkart Featured By Owner Aug 10, 2008  Professional Photographer
well description I feel work well and also, the descriptions themselves are also included in Google search!

Well if you wanna drop me feel free to. I speak my mind and if people don't wanna listen that is their choice! However I stand by what I said and I do view it as an elitist issue, brought on by someones sheer hatred for a technique, which locks out plenty of people. I stick up for people and when I feel something is wrong I voice that concern. You gotta have a voice or you are nothing but a shadow in the masses. The mere fact that contest includes every other technique including IR, Grad NDs, and so forth, all but HDR, says it all. If you bothered to read his comments in his journal on how to get a HDR look using PS that simulates a Grad ND you would see exactly what I am talking about.
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Saint-Gut-Free Featured By Owner Aug 10, 2008
on dA, i particularly don't take things so seriously, whether it's descriptions ... or rules of contests.
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sandwedge Featured By Owner Jul 29, 2008  Professional Photographer
As soon as I started adding more key words I began to get random visits from all over the place.
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kkart Featured By Owner Jul 30, 2008  Professional Photographer
:nod: See what I mean! IT WORKS!
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